Comments on: Those Who Do Not Study History Are Condemned to Repeat It – Guest Post and Giveaway http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/ Memoirs of a Ravenous Reader Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:16:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: b*babbler http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8256 b*babbler Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:46:11 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8256 I think historical fiction - that is, GOOD historical fiction - can truly bring history alive for the masses of people who may not otherwise have any interest in the subject. I can't tell you the many historical fiction books I have read and immediately headed out to the library to read up further on the subject. In doing so, I've had so many areas illuminated, lives and stories that would have never have touched me and that I may have never learned from. Your point, that there is only the thinnest veneer of civilization is a truly salient point. One doesn't need to look very far, even today, to see just how thin that veneer is. Would love to be entered in the contest. I've wanted to read this book for a long time, and for some reason other things have popped up. That said, I'm on a HUGE historical fiction kick right now, and this would fit in nicely. .-= b*babbler´s last blog ..<a href="http://blithelybabbling.blogspot.com/2009/07/man-merely-man.html" rel="nofollow">A man, merely a man</a> =-. I think historical fiction – that is, GOOD historical fiction – can truly bring history alive for the masses of people who may not otherwise have any interest in the subject. I can’t tell you the many historical fiction books I have read and immediately headed out to the library to read up further on the subject. In doing so, I’ve had so many areas illuminated, lives and stories that would have never have touched me and that I may have never learned from.

Your point, that there is only the thinnest veneer of civilization is a truly salient point. One doesn’t need to look very far, even today, to see just how thin that veneer is.

Would love to be entered in the contest. I’ve wanted to read this book for a long time, and for some reason other things have popped up. That said, I’m on a HUGE historical fiction kick right now, and this would fit in nicely.
.-= b*babbler´s last blog ..A man, merely a man =-.

]]> By: Alyce http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8212 Alyce Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:44:23 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8212 It is really sad to realize that things like that happened (and are happening still) to women. I have experienced discrimination in the form of being treated like a child because I am a woman, but at least I haven't faced all of the other horrible things on your list of mistreatments. I remember watching Schindler's List in my apartment during college and weeping. I'm kind of glad I didn't see it in the theater because I'm not a big fan of weeping in front of others. Anyway, this sounds like a fascinating book that I would love to read. akreese (at) hotmail (dot) com .-= Alyce´s last blog ..<a href="http://athomewithbooks.blogspot.com/2009/07/mailbox-monday-july-20.html" rel="nofollow">Mailbox Monday - July 20</a> =-. It is really sad to realize that things like that happened (and are happening still) to women. I have experienced discrimination in the form of being treated like a child because I am a woman, but at least I haven’t faced all of the other horrible things on your list of mistreatments.

I remember watching Schindler’s List in my apartment during college and weeping. I’m kind of glad I didn’t see it in the theater because I’m not a big fan of weeping in front of others.

Anyway, this sounds like a fascinating book that I would love to read.

akreese (at) hotmail (dot) com
.-= Alyce´s last blog ..Mailbox Monday – July 20 =-.

]]> By: devourerofbooks http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8204 devourerofbooks Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:51:11 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8204 Just as clarification, Pope Joan may or may not have existed, she is a legend. Just as clarification, Pope Joan may or may not have existed, she is a legend.

]]> By: CherylS22 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8203 CherylS22 Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:16:10 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8203 I am amazed to even know that a woman was pope (although disguised as a man). I, too, believe that past history must be learned & acknowledged or history will repeat itself. We have to learn from what has happened before us so we don't repeat the horrors that have occurred. I am amazed to even know that a woman was pope (although disguised as a man). I, too, believe that past history must be learned & acknowledged or history will repeat itself. We have to learn from what has happened before us so we don’t repeat the horrors that have occurred.

]]> By: Linna http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8191 Linna Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:21:55 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8191 This is an interesting guest post. I like how the author says about writing and reading histrocal novels and bearing in mind those historical events, however ugly and unbearable it might be. I've heard a lot about Pope Joan and I've been aching for it. I hope to have this great chance to win the book. I'm crossing my fingers. :D Happy reading and happy summer. .-= Linna´s last blog ..<a href="http://livethroughpages.blogspot.com/2009/07/dinner-at-homesick-restaurant-by-anne.html" rel="nofollow">Dinner at the Homesick Restaurant by Anne Tyler</a> =-. This is an interesting guest post. I like how the author says about writing and reading histrocal novels and bearing in mind those historical events, however ugly and unbearable it might be. I’ve heard a lot about Pope Joan and I’ve been aching for it. I hope to have this great chance to win the book. I’m crossing my fingers. :D Happy reading and happy summer.
.-= Linna´s last blog ..Dinner at the Homesick Restaurant by Anne Tyler =-.

]]> By: Chris@bookarama http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8185 Chris@bookarama Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:06:42 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8185 This book sounds really interesting. I had never heard of Pope Joan until the book started popping up on blogs. I love historical fiction so I'd like to be entered in the draw. .-= Chris@bookarama´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Book-a-rama/~3/yhVIUiznGnU/friday-bookish-buzz-lazy-summer.html" rel="nofollow">Friday Bookish Buzz: Lazy Summer</a> =-. This book sounds really interesting. I had never heard of Pope Joan until the book started popping up on blogs. I love historical fiction so I’d like to be entered in the draw.
.-= Chris@bookarama´s last blog ..Friday Bookish Buzz: Lazy Summer =-.

]]> By: Angie http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8178 Angie Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:02:47 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8178 My mother and I were just discussing the topic of our responsibility to those that came before us to witness (in whatever manner we can now) what they went through. We were specifically talking about some of the differences between post-war British literature and post-war American lit and why that might be. My kids are both still too young to really broach some of these topics, but I plan on it as soon as I feel they're ready to grasp it. I love the idea of being vigilant and humanized by our knowledge of history. I'd love to be entered to win this book. I really want to read it. Thank you so much! .-= Angie´s last blog ..<a href="http://angieville.blogspot.com/2009/07/retro-friday-review-prince-of-ill-luck.html" rel="nofollow">Retro Friday Review: The Prince of Ill Luck by Susan Dexter</a> =-. My mother and I were just discussing the topic of our responsibility to those that came before us to witness (in whatever manner we can now) what they went through. We were specifically talking about some of the differences between post-war British literature and post-war American lit and why that might be. My kids are both still too young to really broach some of these topics, but I plan on it as soon as I feel they’re ready to grasp it. I love the idea of being vigilant and humanized by our knowledge of history. I’d love to be entered to win this book. I really want to read it. Thank you so much!
.-= Angie´s last blog ..Retro Friday Review: The Prince of Ill Luck by Susan Dexter =-.

]]> By: [TSS] Big List of Book Giveaways – July 19 Edition - Ms. Bookish http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8166 [TSS] Big List of Book Giveaways – July 19 Edition - Ms. Bookish Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:17:22 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8166 [...] Joan, by Donna Woolfolk Cross, at Devourer of Books (ends July 23, [...] [...] Joan, by Donna Woolfolk Cross, at Devourer of Books (ends July 23, [...]

]]> By: Veens http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8110 Veens Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:44:07 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8110 I was horrified when i read this <i>Women were forbidden to enter a church for 30 days after they had given birth, for they were considered to be “unclean” (make that 60 days if they had birthed a girl). By law, women could be beaten by their husbands or fathers; the only law on the books was one regulating the size of the club that the husband/father could use (and what the law permits, people will often do!)</i> Really?! There was a LOW like that! I can't believe it! But then Middle Ages and all ages were equally bad for women! I think that was a fantastic answer the author gave for "Schlinder’s List". I think I will hunt for this movie, and see it myself! I am really happy that I came to know about this one! Thank You! Please enter me - if I can win this, I will be VERY GLAD :) veena.h.regit@gmail.com .-= Veens´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/GivingReading-AChance/~3/zaAOxWGF7dY/btt-tbr.html" rel="nofollow">BTT: TBR</a> =-. I was horrified when i read this Women were forbidden to enter a church for 30 days after they had given birth, for they were considered to be “unclean” (make that 60 days if they had birthed a girl). By law, women could be beaten by their husbands or fathers; the only law on the books was one regulating the size of the club that the husband/father could use (and what the law permits, people will often do!)

Really?! There was a LOW like that! I can’t believe it! But then Middle Ages and all ages were equally bad for women!

I think that was a fantastic answer the author gave for “Schlinder’s List”. I think I will hunt for this movie, and see it myself!

I am really happy that I came to know about this one! Thank You!
Please enter me – if I can win this, I will be VERY GLAD :)
veena.h.regit@gmail.com
.-= Veens´s last blog ..BTT: TBR =-.

]]> By: Donna Woolfolk Cross http://www.devourerofbooks.com/2009/07/those-who-do-not-study-history-are-condemned-to-repeat-itwere-the-times-really-as-bad-as-that-this-is-a-question-i-get-very-often-from-the-book-groups-i-chat-with-by-speakerphone-2-3-times-a-we/comment-page-1/#comment-8105 Donna Woolfolk Cross Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:19:50 +0000 http://www.devourerofbooks.com/?p=1989#comment-8105 Hey, Natasha! Right back atcha about our speakerphone chat--it was a lot of fun speaking to your group of smart, funny, responsive women! Book group members reading this blog should know that I "join the conversation" for free--that is, I make the call from my end, so there's no expense to the group. It's an unusual opportunity for readers to ask questions of "the horse's mouth, so to speak--especially useful with historical fiction, for you can find out which characters and events are real, which fictional, etc. And I also have some insider movie news to "dish" at the moment! It's easy to set up a chat with me. Just go to www.popejoan.com and follow the links to the "request a time" form. I'll usually reply within 1-2 weeks. Hey, Natasha! Right back atcha about our speakerphone chat–it was a lot of fun speaking to your group of smart, funny, responsive women!

Book group members reading this blog should know that I “join the conversation” for free–that is, I make the call from my end, so there’s no expense to the group. It’s an unusual opportunity for readers to ask questions of “the horse’s mouth, so to speak–especially useful with historical fiction, for you can find out which characters and events are real, which fictional, etc. And I also have some insider movie news to “dish” at the moment!

It’s easy to set up a chat with me. Just go to http://www.popejoan.com and follow the links to the “request a time” form. I’ll usually reply within 1-2 weeks.

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